[12:35] bruckner (bruckner.dreddmor): SR Tori Petlyakov please join us on the deck
[12:35] bruckner (bruckner.dreddmor): welcome to the deck
[12:35] Tori Petlyakov: SEMPER PARATUS
[12:35] bruckner (bruckner.dreddmor): SEMPER PARATUS
[12:13:49] Fawn Starflare: When I first though of this pair of discussions a few weeks back, the inspiration was the many many different expectations we have of each other. [12:14:37] Fawn Starflare: While I would be hard pressed to come up with definitions for top and bottom, or Domme and sub, those who have hung around the lifestyle long enough sense there is a difference. [12:15:45] Fawn Starflare: Not all so called dom/me roles are about dominance. At least not in some traditional sense as an owner of slaves in ancient Rome or even in some parts of the modern Arab world or the antebellum American South. [12:16:56] Fawn Starflare: And the same things goes for those we generically call subs. But some like to be kidnapped, others to be raped, and others pain. And none of those are necessarily submissive. [12:17:46] Fawn Starflare: And then there are the truly submissive roles, servants, maids, sex toy, dolls, and all the rest. And brats, and those that love to be subdued before submitting. [12:18:22] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) smiles [12:18:36] Fawn Starflare: So let's go around the room. Let's see what different dommes expect from subs, three or four attributes, and what subs expect of themselves, what they want to give and what they want in return.
[12:11] Mouse Love Lykin (minnigirl): i offered to teach brit the meanings behind the kneels Miss Carley
[12:11] Carley Noonan pulls Britt close and kisses Britt
[12:11] Carley Noonan: Oh mouse thank you
[12:11] Carley Noonan: we are trying to get her edumacated
[12:12] Mouse Love Lykin (minnigirl): may i take the center for a moment please
[12:12] ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): fine by me mousey-love
[12:12] Mermaid Stormcrow: please do, mouse.
[12:13] Carley Noonan: of course mouse
[12:13] Mouse Love Lykin (minnigirl): this little workshop is called "On your knees"
[12:13] ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): oo
[15:10] Tenshi Love: Yesterday I spoke a bit about power exchange. Today, I'll speak about the topic that interests me the most
[15:10] Tenshi Love: Namely: what makes a D/s relationship work?
[15:11] Feralangel Tolsen raises her hand
[15:12] Tenshi Love: I'll open the floor for initial ideas, then I'll share what I think.
[15:13] Feralangel Tolsen: Ok. Well.. I think the ingredients are different for everyone. I think in general compatibility is hugs. That means compatibility of kinks and also style. What I mean by smiles is for instance, some subs need more affection. Like me.
[15:13] Akala Tanara: Dedication, trust and communication I would say make it work.
[15:14] Feralangel Tolsen: honest communication even when it is not easy to say or discuss.. especially then
[15:14] Kite Homewood: ...dedication, too.
[15:15] Carley Noonan: patience
[15:15] Carley Noonan: love
[15:15] Tenshi Love: You all have begun to scratch the surface here. This topic is plenty more profound than it seems.
[15:15] Carley Noonan: and respect
[15:15] ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ: i go with respect too
[15:16] Feralangel Tolsen: ya. I would say respect for each party as a human being that is not predicated on their role.
[18:18] Tenshi Love (eiko.zeffirelli): there is transfer of power from the top to the bottom. Such a transfer can happen in three ways.
[18:19] Tenshi Love (eiko.zeffirelli): Power over is the first type of power transfer: The will of the dominant is imposed on the submissive.
[18:20] Tenshi Love (eiko.zeffirelli): It's classic, but i's not good on the long run, because there is no space for the submissive to express herself.
[18:21] Tenshi Love (eiko.zeffirelli): Power under is the second type of power exchange: everything is negotiated from the submissive
Miss Fawn discussion - traits of a domme
[13:00] Fawn Starflare: What I'd like to do is have each of you think about dommes and what a Domme is to you. Then pick the three most important attributes, skills, attitudes, presentations, etc. Before we start to respond to each other I would like you all to to tell us your three things. After that we can discuss similarities and differences in the lists. I wonder if Dommes, subs, and switches all define a Domme the same way.
[13:00] Caprice (becky.koolhoven) nods at Miss Fawn
[13:01] Fawn Starflare: It's not about how you met or how long a trial period.
[13:01] Fawn Starflare: It's about both domme and sub being willing to truly know the other and to commit to finding a middle road.
[13:02] Fawn Starflare: Even in TPE, there is give and take.
[13:02] Fawn Starflare: So lets try this go around the room and each woman say what Domme means to her.
TPE - Collaring
[12:16] Mermaid Stormcrow: so let's start the discussion
[12:16] Mermaid Stormcrow: This is Fawn's topic
[12:16] Mermaid Stormcrow: For the next two weeks we will be discussing dominant and submissive roles.. The goal is to explore our expectations of ourselves and our partners as we fulfill these roles. There is no one comprehensive set of skills and behaviors that define either role. As people describe their desires and needs we will see that roles are fluid and evolve to satisfy both partners. Even for TPE the Domme/sub relationship is much more a collaboration that it might seem.
[12:17] Mermaid Stormcrow: This week is focusing on Dommes. Next week will be subs.
[12:17] Mermaid Stormcrow: To the dommes in the room, when you read this topic, what comes to mind?
[12:19] Carla (cyberspy): Which part, the TPE?
[12:19] Mermaid Stormcrow: When I read this topic, I think of how much I've learned since starting as a domme; not that long ago.
[12:20] Mermaid Stormcrow: What does TPE mean Carla?
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