Sunday, June 15, 2014

Dolls - a kink part deux

Dolls -

[09:21:12] Fawn Starflare: Well I see a few Dolls here. Different Varieties. Melody, toy, born, kelly.
[09:21:35] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) smiles
[09:21:36] Melody Cross (melody.runo) nods
[09:22:10] Fawn Starflare: Hello para.
[09:22:22] Mermaid Stormcrow: please come can join us for the discussion
[09:22:23] Para (mstrspara.moraga): Smiles and waves Hello all :)
[09:22:34] MissMarcy Yachvili (mismarcy) is online.
[09:23:01] RF Reverse Stiletto (r lower leg) whispers: A nice comfy heel is placed on Jessicca's shoes, capping the mean spike and rendering it harmless.
[09:23:14] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) smiles
[09:23:35] Mermaid Stormcrow quietly waves to Miana and jessicca as the discussion starts.
[09:23:54] Fawn Starflare watches maina drag in a securely bound, gagged, and blinded girl.
[09:24:13] Fawn Starflare: Very nice, Miana, and the coloring of the buttocks is perfect.
[09:24:21] (no name) Mstrspara Moraga has turned Mstrspara's key.
[09:24:56] Fawn Starflare: One more Doll added to the collection.
[09:25:02] Miana Siabonne: Hiya Everyone :)
[09:25:27] Fawn Starflare: I think we can see one of the elements of being a doll is the paradoxical freedom that comes with restraint.

[09:25:49] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) nodnods
[09:26:08] Fawn Starflare: The doll makes the girl anonymous, and rees her from having to maintain social standards of conduct.
[09:26:13] borntoserve (adavenomiss): ooh, the reverse stiletto, nice RF toy there
[09:26:19] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) nods
[09:26:26] princess: HMMPF
[09:26:27] Fawn Starflare: She is free to be slut or what ever the doll owner desires,
[09:26:49] Miana Siabonne: Mmmhmm
[09:27:02] Fawn Starflare: As Beta testers for Katie Paine, toy and I love to see RF toys in abundance!
[09:27:10] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) giggles
[09:27:24] Miana Siabonne: Drop a note telling her I want some ankle length ballet boots :D
[09:27:28] Miana Siabonne: hahaha
[09:27:47] Lex Berchot: Hmm wouldn't that only go as far as those dolls that have an interest in hoods, masks, and such. I would not say Para over there is exactly anonymous. :)
[09:27:49] borntoserve (adavenomiss): ooh
[09:28:04] Fawn Starflare: The RF Secure boots are ballet or stiletto, and ankle length or calf length.
[09:28:21] Melody Cross (melody.runo) nods at Lex and smiles "True, there's quite a few ideals of 'Dolls' par say."
[09:28:21] Fawn Starflare: THat's bee covered for years, but they are leather, not latex.
[09:28:43] Para (mstrspara.moraga): Well this is totally not my normal "look" My clockwork ..must kept winded =...dolly
[09:29:06] Lex Berchot smiles kindly and warmly at Para and nods.
[09:29:25] Miana Siabonne: Para's a doll dolly
[09:29:37] Fawn Starflare: This is why I asked for a variety of dolls.
[09:29:47] Fawn Starflare: Because there is such a wide range.
[09:30:01] Miana Siabonne: Jess, toy and Kelly (?) are all human dollies
[09:30:29] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): i guess anonymous dollies can be called gimps?
[09:30:34] (no name) Miana Siabonne has turned Mstrspara's key.
[09:30:36] borntoserve (adavenomiss): ooh, they look nice
[09:30:47] Para (mstrspara.moraga): SMiles Thanks :)
[09:30:48] CS Pfeffer: wind-up doll
[09:30:51] Fawn Starflare: Some may be called Gimps.
[09:31:06] Miana Siabonne: When you say gimp though, I think male subs
[09:31:09] Fawn Starflare: The way miana's girl is all muffled up, that might apply to her.
[09:31:15] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): oh
[09:31:29] princess: HMMPF
[09:31:34] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): i saw in some videoclips women gimps
[09:31:36] CS Pfeffer: Gimp....why I start think when I heard that word I start think "Pulp Fiction's gimp"
[09:31:40] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): and it was lovely ^_^
[09:31:42] Fawn Starflare: Oh, no Miana... A gimp has to do with function, not gender or sex.
[09:31:48] Miana Siabonne: dolly is the distaff version of that word or I like to think of it that way
[09:32:06] Miana Siabonne: and yes it is based on function
[09:32:16] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): let me find a picture for you
[09:32:43] Fawn Starflare: No, I have seen many, many female gimps and have no male associations for it a all.
[09:32:49] Miana Siabonne: What qualifies a gimp though? How restrained they are or how they are dressed?
[09:33:01] Fawn Starflare: Gimp is a word that derives from a pejorative usage.
[09:33:19] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury):
[09:33:21] Fawn Starflare: Someone with a limp or other handicap was and sometimes still is caled A GIMP.
[09:33:26] Fawn Starflare: iN bdsm SCEENES
[09:33:32] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): it's from one of Insex videos i think
[09:34:09] Miana Siabonne: nice photo :)
[09:34:17] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury):
[09:34:22] borntoserve (adavenomiss): oh yes
[09:34:26] Para (mstrspara.moraga): I think it may have originated in the movie "Pulp Fiction" not sure a "gimp" had a fetish meaning before that movie
[09:34:29] Wendy String is online.
[09:35:08] Fawn Starflare: So the sub that's forced to use a lildo gag to fuck another sub, is a gimp.
[09:35:15] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury):
[09:35:21] Miana Siabonne: and restained enough to be largely helpless
[09:35:21] Fawn Starflare: And soprry about the runaway caps key
[09:35:39] Miana Siabonne: Well, Jess certainly qualifies then :D
[09:35:39] Wendy String is offline.
[09:36:23] Fawn Starflare: Yes, and I like the text you've put on her.
[09:36:26] Moss (moss.hastings) is offline.
[09:36:29] Miana Siabonne grins
[09:36:42] Miana Siabonne: Something I put in as a filler :)
[09:37:04] Fawn Starflare: Now para and Melody represent a different sort of doll.
[09:37:27] Melody Cross (melody.runo): Figured it'd be better to change and give a different Doll(y) style
[09:37:29] Melody Cross (melody.runo): Hehe
[09:37:30] Fawn Starflare: The wind up key. She is motive and participatory only if she has been woud u[/.
[09:38:12] Fawn Starflare: Another variant on the key idea is The Doll Chip and similar items.
[09:38:35] Fawn Starflare: The sub is controlled by the implant and the capacity of her battery.
[09:38:36] Caitlyn Reardon: howdy y'all
[09:38:58] Fawn Starflare: This is as much for solo play as well as Mistress/dollie
[09:40:11] Miana Siabonne: I've tried thier version of Dolly once
[09:40:15] Miana Siabonne: I'll admit it's odd
[09:40:31] Miana Siabonne: It's.. transformative in a way gimps are not
[09:40:35] Fawn Starflare: What did you likje or not like about it?
[09:40:46] Fawn Starflare smiles
[09:41:18] Miana Siabonne: mmmm.. the control part was nice
[09:41:20] Fawn Starflare: Just put an iControl on your gimp, and you can walk her where ever you want her to be,
[09:41:46] Miana Siabonne: Ah, that's the part I didn't get
[09:41:53] Fawn Starflare: I remember once back in Jan 2011, My Mistress had me walk away from a tryst.
[09:42:20] Fawn Starflare: Suddenly the words coming out of my mouth were hers, and my body was walking where she wanted it too.
[09:42:35] Fawn Starflare: No warning, just the application of control.
[09:42:35] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) chuckles
[09:43:15] Mermaid Stormcrow listens intently
[09:43:20] Miana Siabonne: Seen, when you say things like that though
[09:43:46] Fawn Starflare: She also tried doll chips and batteries on me. I was still very new to SL and in my excitement, I was online 20 hr/day
[09:44:00] Fawn Starflare: So she put me on a battery to force me to sleep!
[09:44:13] borntoserve (adavenomiss) giggles
[09:44:13] Para (mstrspara.moraga): Giggles!
[09:44:20] Miana Siabonne: OOhhh
[09:44:23] Miana Siabonne: ok that is nice
[09:44:41] Mermaid Stormcrow smiles
[09:44:44] Fawn Starflare: Miana, it's a question of control.
[09:44:56] Miana Siabonne: Yes
[09:44:58] Miana Siabonne: But..
[09:45:04] Fawn Starflare: As a switch, I'm sure you know there are times when you want to be totally controlled.
[09:45:10] Miana Siabonne: Oh yes :)
[09:45:16] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) *pUrrrpUrrr~~*
[09:45:29] Fawn Starflare: Its just what you need to feel cared for and your universe to seem non-chaotic.
[09:45:44] Fawn Starflare: So these devices give a shot at that.
[09:46:00] Miana Siabonne: Makes you all snuggly at times :)
[09:46:09] Fawn Starflare: I use them with my girls, but my control is mostly at a verbal level and their desire to please me.
[09:46:20] Fawn Starflare: mmmmm hm.
[09:46:46] Fawn Starflare: I noticed an interesting thin when we were beta testing the RF Mesh hood kelly and toy are both wearing.
[09:46:51] Miana Siabonne: ?
[09:46:58] Miana Siabonne: aside from it looking awesome I presume?
[09:47:07] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) laughs
[09:47:08] Fawn Starflare: In the ban configuration, not face, just the smooth curve.
[09:47:24] Fawn Starflare: I suddenly realized, that I was seeing and reacting to toy differently.
[09:47:42] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury)'s ears twitch with obvious interest
[09:48:06] Fawn Starflare: I was doing things differently, because somehow, she was less than full human. That it was somehow more acceptable to do weird stuff to her.
[09:48:19] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) *pUrrrpUrrr~~*
[09:48:38] Fawn Starflare: I mean I have objectified girls before. Objectified toy before, but this was different.
[09:49:02] Fawn Starflare: And I believe that the doll feels different having no recognizable identity.
[09:49:15] Miana Siabonne: Does using the batteries and ichips and the plastic dollly skins cause the same reaction?
[09:49:26] leah (milkcowsnowpaw) is offline.
[09:49:36] Fawn Starflare: I think it does for some people.
[09:50:06] Miana Siabonne: your right though.. it does feel differently being unrecognizable though
[09:50:08] Fawn Starflare: You know, looking like a sex-shop blow-up fuck-doll makes it ok for you to behave like a fuck-doll.
[09:50:36] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): hehehe
[09:50:52] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): indeed so, that sweet sense of anonimity!
[09:50:56] Melody Cross (melody.runo) nods
[09:50:57] Fawn Starflare: Even when I was just 13 or 14 and merely fantasizing, being bound gave me a freedom to do and feel things that "good girls" do not do and feel.
[09:51:07] Fawn Starflare: With bondage comes freedom.
[09:51:15] Fawn Starflare: Kelly, toy, do you girls want to jump in?
[09:51:32] Fawn Starflare: You, too, born. You love to loose your face.
[09:52:09] Jessicca Lorefield: uuugh, thank you Miss Mia
[09:52:33] Miana Siabonne: Well.. any thoughts on what were talking about Jess?
[09:52:42] Fawn Starflare: It nice to have you present for a few minutes, jessicca
[09:52:58] Jessicca Lorefield: honestly I've had no names for this whole conversation so it was very confusing to follow hehe
[09:53:09] Miana Siabonne: grins
[09:53:14] Jessicca Lorefield: thank you :)
[09:53:24] borntoserve (adavenomiss): it's nice to be controlled and restricted sometimes Miss
[09:53:40] borntoserve (adavenomiss): ventriloquism can be neat
[09:54:08] Fawn Starflare: Yes I have some nice toys for putting words in your mouth,
[09:54:19] borntoserve (adavenomiss) gulps
[09:54:30] Fawn Starflare: Well Some of them present a hypnosis/mind control thing.
[09:54:49] Miana Siabonne: OOh
[09:54:54] Miana Siabonne: now that's fun for scenes
[09:54:57] Fawn Starflare: It is possible to speak through a girls mouth and have her words bee seeen only by her.
[09:55:00] Miana Siabonne: But long-term?
[09:55:21] Melody Cross (melody.runo): A good portion of it also falls along the enjoyment for Gynoids and such of that nature.
[09:55:23] Fawn Starflare: Isn't that very much up to the specific individuals.
[09:55:31] Fawn Starflare nods
[09:55:52] Miana Siabonne: gynoids one I've never tried
[09:55:56] Fawn Starflare: Greetings, Lile.
[09:56:10] Lillelise: Greetings, A/all
[09:56:14] Melody Cross (melody.runo): Hello Lile.
[09:56:18] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): hiiiii
[09:56:23] Fawn Starflare: Well an avatar the has doll joints, come close to being a gynoid.
[09:56:44] Miana Siabonne: gynoids being the sci-fi flavored version?
[09:57:00] Fawn Starflare: Yes. *looks to Melody*
[09:57:06] Melody Cross (melody.runo): Pretty much, a living 'Doll'. Though the chip bringing it more into the robot form.
[09:57:15] CS Pfeffer: Gynoid are female shaped robot when Android are male shaped robot.
[09:57:19] Melody Cross (melody.runo): But it being near if not close.
[09:58:01] Fawn Starflare: Miana, you mentioned, well extending certain play for too long might bother you.
[09:58:08] Fawn Starflare: I have that issue with toy.
[09:58:15] Miana Siabonne nods
[09:58:26] Miana Siabonne: I've no idea how long I'd last either
[09:58:30] Fawn Starflare: She can stand being kept blind and deaf longer than any one I know, including me.
[09:58:32] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) nods
[09:58:45] Miana Siabonne cringes at that thought
[09:58:50] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): i like trying out different things
[09:58:55] Fawn Starflare: The real issue is, though I love keeping her like that, I want my girl, my companion, and let her loose.
[09:59:02] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) smiles
[09:59:12] Miana Siabonne: Then she's merely gagged :D?
[09:59:25] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) laughs
[09:59:33] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): and bound!
[09:59:48] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): but depends on Goddess' mood
[09:59:54] Melody Cross (melody.runo): I would imagine that would be the benefit of having a clockwork or gynoid/android Doll, as they can retain most aspects of their personal selves while still being under control.
[09:59:59] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): which is perfectly fine though =^.^=
[10:00:11] Windie Costa (windglaive.langer) is online.
[10:00:22] Miana Siabonne: See that's where I differ Melody
[10:00:58] Miana Siabonne: Clockworks and gynoids and such, always feel.. cold.. like most of what made them desirable is gone in the transformation
[10:01:27] Fawn Starflare: To you and me, perhaps, Miana, but not to others.
[10:01:44] Fawn Starflare: Some like the impersonal frigidity.
[10:01:47] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): i do prefer living human play ^_^
[10:01:48] Melody Cross (melody.runo) nods "It's a very case by case sense."
[10:01:56] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): although implants can be fun ^_^
[10:01:58] Fawn Starflare: Being locked in steel vs bound in ropes.
[10:02:02] Miana Siabonne: I think living is the key term :)
[10:02:18] Miana Siabonne: I have a much harder time thinking of plastic and metal dolls as "living"
[10:02:45] Fawn Starflare: Ok, well here is the typical fantasy that goes with many doll forms.
[10:02:47] Miana Siabonne: whereas pony girls and gimps definitively are
[10:03:10] Fawn Starflare: The woman gets stuck somehow in a factory that makes sex dolls.
[10:03:25] Fawn Starflare: Somehow she wounds up having a doll built around her.
[10:03:37] Fawn Starflare: She will feel and experience all the doll does, but ...
[10:03:48] Fawn Starflare: she has no way to make her presence known.
[10:03:52] Melody Cross (melody.runo) nods
[10:04:14] Fawn Starflare: She can only go along for the ride and experience everything, even that which disgusts or terrifies her.
[10:04:25] Jessicca Lorefield: to answer your question, it does help yes, but there has to be the whole personal story between me and her behind it, for me to feel like her possession
[10:04:31] Miana Siabonne: That appeal I understand.. sort of?
[10:04:46] Miana Siabonne: intellectually
[10:04:46] Fawn Starflare: Thank you, Jess.
[10:05:14] Fawn Starflare: Some find joy simply being the doll without being owned.
[10:05:30] Miana Siabonne: Are the heels you're in working to do that?
[10:05:36] Miana Siabonne pokes Jess
[10:05:39] Fawn Starflare: For others it is everything about how it structures an ongoing relationship for the period of the RP.
[10:07:07] Jessicca Lorefield: the heels are not helping anything to be honest :P
[10:07:22] Fawn Starflare: Is kelly permitted to speak, CS?
[10:07:26] Miana Siabonne laughs
[10:07:54] Miana Siabonne: yes but you look so adorable in them :)
[10:08:11] Fawn Starflare: They are just a random cruelty, jess?
[10:08:15]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): do what about the dolls in the glass boxes?
[10:08:20] borntoserve (adavenomiss) does love those reverse stilettos
[10:08:29]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): is that punishment, admiration?
[10:08:35] Miana Siabonne: Admiration for me
[10:08:38] Fawn Starflare: Reminds me that I haven't had born or toy wearing them recently.
[10:09:14] Miana Siabonne: But it's only fun being stuck in one of them as there are people around to make comments
[10:09:19] borntoserve (adavenomiss) gulps
[10:09:31] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) smiles
[10:09:35] Miana Siabonne: By yourself, those glass boxes are.. not so much fun
[10:10:06] Kelly (kellyanne.sommer) is offline.
[10:10:15] Fawn Starflare: No, but the comments, making and hearing them .. so much fun.
[10:10:32] Jessicca Lorefield: the shoes are just an additional fun factor for my Domme I think, she knows I hate wearing them, and she finds me cute both in behavior and in looks when I wear them, they don't emphasize my feeling of helplessness that much
[10:10:32] Miana Siabonne: MMhmm indeed :D
[10:10:54] Mermaid Stormcrow: ((tessa would like to take pics for the blog, if anyone is uncomfortable having their pic taken please IM tessa right now. Thank you))
[10:11:18] borntoserve (adavenomiss): Jessicca: Even when you're tethered to the floor by them?
[10:11:21] Fawn Starflare: Para, we haven't heard from for a bit, do have thoughts to add to thie mix?
[10:11:30] Fawn Starflare: ooooo Pictures
[10:11:47] Fawn Starflare: Born, turn around, baby.
[10:11:54] Miana Siabonne: Honestly, i've never tethered to the floor
[10:12:00] Miana Siabonne: Her I mean
[10:12:27] Fawn Starflare: I will attach a leash to a ring in the floor or wall, a post..
[10:12:48] Fawn Starflare: It does something to a girl when she's forced to remain there while you walk away.
[10:12:57]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov) nods
[10:13:00] Fawn Starflare: The bondage has to serve as her connection to you.
[10:14:01]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): now to clarify, futuristic qualifies in doll category, and they are human?
[10:14:22] Fawn Starflare: What?
[10:14:23] Para (mstrspara.moraga): Like any other SL genre I look at My doll forms as a sorta Object or thing to be owned or controlled....
[10:14:56] Fawn Starflare: I was just admiring your avatar, para. I notice you have doll joints and all.
[10:15:05] sophiegag is online.
[10:15:11] Melody Cross (melody.runo): 'Noid' classification would be more of 'human' since if you're playing the part of of an Android, it's meant to 'replicate human mannerism' while still being robotic in a sense.
[10:15:11]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): i am trying to figure out the parameters
[10:15:20]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): aha
[10:15:29]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): thank you Melody
[10:15:36] Para (mstrspara.moraga): Always human, just locked into different shells of control?
[10:15:46] Melody Cross (melody.runo): So basically an in-between of human and robot, which is a sort of Doll in of itself.
[10:15:56]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): yes that makes sense to me para, thank you
[10:16:04]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): oooo
[10:16:09] RF Reverse Stiletto (r lower leg) whispers: The comfy heel is removed, exposing the mean spike under Jessicca's feet.
[10:16:18]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): eek
[10:16:45] Miana Siabonne: isn't in between a human and robot a cyborg?
[10:16:50] Para (mstrspara.moraga): Also sorta having what makes you human ...locked into a less than human form with joints that are not as "good" as human...
[10:16:58] Fawn Starflare: Tessa, you are constantly reminding me how new you are to all ove this.
[10:17:12]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov) grins
[10:17:16] Melody Cross (melody.runo): It is technically, but the concept of Gynoid and Android is one that replicates Human emotions.
[10:17:21] Fawn Starflare: Yes, the first time you encounter it, things can be hard to understand or accept.
[10:17:44]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): i like to files things away correctly :)
[10:18:10] Miana Siabonne: Useful isn't it :)?
[10:18:20] Fawn Starflare: Para, as I listen to you and read your profile, I have the sense that you much prefer the doll avi to a "human" avi.
[10:18:23] Miana Siabonne: Pony girls are dolls in way, yes?
[10:18:39] Fawn Starflare: Tessa, that presumes there is only one way in which things can be filed.
[10:18:59] Fawn Starflare: In fact the dolly folder belongs in may differnt piles
[10:19:39] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): in a way
[10:19:40] Fawn Starflare: I suppose pony play or some aspect of do closely resemble doll play.
[10:19:44] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): they are more pets
[10:19:51] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): along with puppies
[10:19:56]  ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): and furries are in pets?
[10:20:02] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury): but it's dehumanization too
[10:20:32] Fawn Starflare: However, pony's have a who life as ponies. Training various skills, practicing for competitions, the whole business of being groomed and cared for, inspected.
[10:20:41] Fawn Starflare: It's a whole culture.
[10:21:30] Ash (ash.yheng) settles into a comfy chair, placing her hand out over the arm and running her fingers through the adjacent doll's hair
[10:21:46] Fawn Starflare: It's like the whole Mistress sub thing. There is no one right way.
[10:21:53] Melody Cross (melody.runo) nods
[10:21:58] Fawn Starflare: What I do with toy meets our joint needs.
[10:22:09] Para (mstrspara.moraga): Smiles happily :)
[10:22:11] Fawn Starflare: Ditto for Miana and Jess, and so on.
[10:22:45] Fawn Starflare: We can make generalizations, observe patterns, but ultimately it's a relationship between a small number of people.

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