Dressing your subbie 14 Aug 2014

[12:06:28] Fawn Starflare: Thank you all for showing your support of our wonderful group and club by coming down.
[12:07:36] Fawn Starflare: By now you know that after some opening remarks I sit back and just keep the conversation going. Today's topic provides lots for each of you to contribute.
[12:09:12] Fawn Starflare: My first notion of this talk came about a week ago. A woman came in in silks, black lace T&T belt, and hair gelled to look like there was a stiff breeze.
[12:09:42] Mermaid Stormcrow quietly walks into the discussion and sits down
[12:09:59] Fawn Starflare: She was a vision of loveliness and her manners matched, and just by looking at her you knew her Mistress loved her very much to guide or impose that presentation.
[12:12:13] Fawn Starflare:  The thing is as we look around we have all dressed or been dressed not only to be pleasing to the eye but for other purposes as well.
[12:12:48] Brianne Erin: to please ones self or others
[12:13:13] Mermaid Stormcrow nods in agreement
[12:13:14] Fawn Starflare: An curious thing about this as that many of the decisions that go into creating this image or not made consciously.

Cognitive Dissonance in BDSM 07 August 2014

[11:46:50] Linda Doune: Mistress....
[11:46:52] Linda Doune: and faery
[11:47:01] Fawn Starflare: It's a way of making your world feel ordered, safe, and secure.
[11:47:14] Linda Doune: it took a while to "come out" as my true spirit
[11:47:28] Linda Doune: coming out... to bdsm places... as a pure fairy
[11:47:32] Linda Doune: is....
[11:47:33] Linda Doune: well
[11:47:46] Linda Doune: this is the first time I've come here like this
[11:47:53] Linda Doune: but I can not hide my true desire
[11:48:04] Fawn Starflare: Congratulations, linda.
[11:48:12] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) smiles
[11:48:30] Linda Doune: in the faery world..... bdsm is so anathemic to the lifestyle.. it is totally forbidden
[11:48:38] Linda Doune: it is seen as not loving
[11:48:51] Linda Doune: but it is me
[11:48:59] Linda Doune: as well as seeing a girl on her knees.. is me
[11:49:43] Linda Doune: I am still a member here
[11:49:54] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) remembers reading "Bondage Fairies" comic and giggles
[11:50:22] Fawn Starflare: If you are comfortable with it, lets make this part of the description. Your feelings are so much like my own that the dissonant couplet is different.
[11:50:27] Linda Doune: at least when I am over there
[11:50:40] Linda Doune: I need to hide my desire to take my wife and make her kneel
[11:50:51] Linda Doune: but I do that when I am not physically .. ehehe.. here
[11:51:38] Linda Doune: I was dominant outwardly for ages
[11:51:47] Linda Doune: years even... you have known me for years, Fawn
[11:52:02] Linda Doune: inside me was.. this...
[11:52:05] Linda Doune: and it won out
[11:52:22] Fawn Starflare: I think it's great.
[11:53:05] Fawn Starflare: Personally I have no issue with dominant faeries, however I understand the conflict within your community.
[11:53:21] Linda Doune: my community... dissolved on me
[11:53:32] Fawn Starflare: It's nice to see you -- OUT -- happy and comfortable with yourself.
[11:53:41] Linda Doune: that gave me the opportunity to explore and expound ... with my gentler inside
[11:53:55] Linda Doune: clubs I have been with for years... dissolved.. and shocked me
[11:55:25] Linda Doune: Bdsm has been part of my life here since I came on 5 yrs ago
[11:55:37] Linda Doune: so... you can say this is a huge shift ㋡
...
...
[12:13:22] Fawn Starflare: ok ladies. its time to get this discussion going.
[12:17:21] Fawn Starflare: so the topic of discussion today is cognitive dissonance.

Inaugurals

of the New Lower Dungeon
of the Cellar Sunday Dances with DJLexi 3-5pm

dressing a sub's head...

[12:15:51] Fawn Starflare: I've been thinking a lot about gags and sensory deprivation, removal of identity and a bunch or related issues that come along with dressing a sub's head.
[12:16:17] Fawn Starflare: Blind folds, hoods, harnesses, gags, blinkers, and the like.
[12:17:41] Fawn Starflare: For me this all starts with an oral fixation. As a sub it was my desire to always have something in my mouth. A gag of any king, part of my Mistress, part of someone designated by my Mistress.

Miss San & Ziggy

Ziggy returneth!!
And i was very excited, so Miss San let me post some pictures.
If any of you have great big events like prodigal daughters or weddings, please send me your pictures to post and any pertinent poop :)

The Vagina Monologues with Miss Fawn July 3

[12:09]  Fawn Starflare takes a sip of water from the table beside her, then taps a spoon on it gently to get people's attention
[12:10]  Fawn Starflare: Tuesday night I finally gave myself the joy of watching “The Vagina Monologues,” Written and performed by Eve Ensler. In preparation for our discussion I looked her up in the Wikipedia. She's an interesting woman and hope at least some of you will look her up after our discussion. If you have about 90 minutes and want an amazing experience, watch “The Vagina Monologues.” Amazon has recently acquired distribution rights to a lot of HBO shows, many of them, including the “Monologues,” of is available “free” to Amazon Prime members, all others pay cash.

Sensual Domming: the SL/RL Connection - Miss Ash 06222014

[2014/06/22 11:10]  Ash (Ash Yheng): So basically, although this discussion started off in my mind purely about Sensual Domming as a method ...
[2014/06/22 11:10]  Ash (Ash Yheng): ... it quickly turned into one that was about how connected subs are between RL and SL.
[2014/06/22 11:10]  Ash (Ash Yheng): And this is a tricky area. Some people get uncomfortable about that subject, because they think of it as being "too real", or get worried about people stalking them ...
[2014/06/22 11:11]  Molly Domenici: Part of SL is having that separation from RL
[2014/06/22 11:11]  Ash (Ash Yheng): ... but it doesn't have to be that way. To me there is always going to be -some- sort of carry over into the RL of the sub if we're talking about a real D/s experience, at least in terms of mood.
[2014/06/22 11:11]  Ash (Ash Yheng) nods at molly.
[2014/06/22 11:11]  Ash (Ash Yheng): Well, people experience it all very differently.

"Mother, may I?" Miss Fawn discussion 06192014

[12:10:04] Fawn Starflare: It was Carla who indirectly suggested this topic about 8 days ago.
[12:10:23] Carla (cyberspy): haha, that is an understatement.
[12:11:04] Fawn Starflare: Carla what complaining about the ways and timings of people wanting to use her girls and she said, "Have you discussed that yet."
[12:11:22] Fawn Starflare: So here we are
[12:11:32] Sugar Baby (bridgette.huntress): oh ok
[12:12:53] Fawn Starflare: Also Carla and had a minor upset of her girl adonna participating in the forniphilia demonstration. So issues of etiquette were definitely in the air.
[12:13:20] Fawn Starflare: And Lexi's blog post that week also addresses similar ISSUES.
[12:14:56] Fawn Starflare: As I see it there are very few universal rules of etiquette in the BDSM world. A lot of behaviors that might be unacceptable in everyday life are often acceptable here.
[12:15:37] Fawn Starflare: Even so, dominants are very possessive of their subs, even when the sub is allowed to roam about to play.

Sub-space & Sub drop - Miss Ash Yheng June 15, 2014

[11:05]  Ash (ash.yheng): Looking around the room I suspect that most of you are at least somewhat versed in the subject ...
[11:06]  Toni Westland: sorry I did not pick up on the subject.
[11:06]  Ash (ash.yheng): ... but I'd like to go over some basics, as well as some SL-specific comments on the subject of "subspace and subdrop" for the benefit of people that are new to the scene, or used to thinking in RL context.
[11:07]  Mouse Love Lykin (minnigirl): oh, an interesting subject Miss Ash
[11:07]   ღ Ţєşşa Romanov ღ (tessaromanov): truly
[11:07]  Mermaid Stormcrow nods and listens

Dolls - a kink part deux

Dolls -

[09:21:12] Fawn Starflare: Well I see a few Dolls here. Different Varieties. Melody, toy, born, kelly.
[09:21:35] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) smiles
[09:21:36] Melody Cross (melody.runo) nods
[09:22:10] Fawn Starflare: Hello para.
[09:22:22] Mermaid Stormcrow: please come can join us for the discussion
[09:22:23] Para (mstrspara.moraga): Smiles and waves Hello all :)
[09:22:34] MissMarcy Yachvili (mismarcy) is online.
[09:23:01] RF Reverse Stiletto (r lower leg) whispers: A nice comfy heel is placed on Jessicca's shoes, capping the mean spike and rendering it harmless.
[09:23:14] A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) smiles
[09:23:35] Mermaid Stormcrow quietly waves to Miana and jessicca as the discussion starts.
[09:23:54] Fawn Starflare watches maina drag in a securely bound, gagged, and blinded girl.
[09:24:13] Fawn Starflare: Very nice, Miana, and the coloring of the buttocks is perfect.
[09:24:21] (no name) Mstrspara Moraga has turned Mstrspara's key.
[09:24:56] Fawn Starflare: One more Doll added to the collection.
[09:25:02] Miana Siabonne: Hiya Everyone :)
[09:25:27] Fawn Starflare: I think we can see one of the elements of being a doll is the paradoxical freedom that comes with restraint.

Dolls, a kink

[12:12:18] Fawn Starflare: Oh Silver, we hold a number of discussions each week to keep that place warm and cozy. I lead a discussion , well as of this week, twice a week.
[12:12:29] Fawn Starflare: And today as I said it Dommes and Dolls.
[12:12:52] Fawn Starflare: It's hard to say exactly where and hows the doll fetish came to be.
[12:13:36] Fawn Starflare: My perception of this is that it began with inflatable sex dolls available by mail order or at your local XXX book shop.

Taboo kinks and their expression June 8, 2014

Kinks, led by Alana

[10:58]  [2014/06/08 10:01]  Mermaid Stormcrow: A little reminder that there is a discussion at 11 SLT. Tessa won't be here, I'll do my best to come back and keep track of notes.
[11:03]  Ash (ash.yheng): We should probably start in a couple of minutes. *smiles*
[11:03]  Alana (devastacia.soulstar) nods
[11:03]  Alana (devastacia.soulstar): Just giving people time to arrive
[11:08]  Alana (devastacia.soulstar): Okay, we're gonna go ahead and get started
[11:09]  Ash (ash.yheng): yay .*smiles and awaits for alana*
[11:09]  Alana (devastacia.soulstar): I want to preface this discussion by stating that this is a safe place...everyone's kinks, fetishes, etc are to be respected. If you can't do so in a kind manner, you will be asked to leave.
[11:10]  Alana (devastacia.soulstar): I want everyone here to feel like they can speak about anything they wish without fear of negative judgment.
[11:10]  Mermaid Stormcrow listens and nods
[11:10]  Rae (raelara.ishtari) nods, shifting enough so that she can listen and observe attentively.
[11:11]  Ash (ash.yheng): I think we're all in agreement with that, darling. :)
[11:11]  Alana (devastacia.soulstar): Today we're going to be talking about edge/taboo kinks, in more or less three parts...how you become comfortable participating in them, how you share them with others, and how you deal with the negative reactions of those who don't understand.

Wednesday Discussion with Miss Fawn 6/4/2014

Forniphilia...
[12:10]  Fawn Starflare: As you've all seen, today's discussion comes with three lovely demonstrations.
[12:10]  Fawn Starflare: Interestingly enough, all three seem to have been directly inspired by Jeff Gord.
[12:11]  Fawn Starflare: The notion of using women as furniture has been around for a very long time.

Wednesday Discussion 5/29/2014

Wednesday Discussion 12:00 Noon led by Miss Fawn
"What to do when you know you have done something wrong and have no idea why your Mistress is so angry with you and what you need to do."

[12:07]  Fawn Starflare: Today's topic, well you have only to look at my toy to see what inspired it.
[12:07]  Fawn Starflare: I am sure the lash marks will heal soon.
[12:07]  A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) caresses the welts
[12:07]  Helena Sitri (plueschie): *giggles* if it gets more full here we need more pillows on the floor
[12:08]  Fawn Starflare: It's no secret that though I only Domme now, I am and always have been a switch.
[12:08]  Fawn Starflare: I have been on both sides of this dilemma.
[12:08]  Fawn Starflare: I will illustrate the situation.
[12:08]  Fawn Starflare: Yesterday when I logged in toy was online but AFK.
[12:09]  Fawn Starflare: When she logged in, she was both blind and gagged, and that is something she had to have noticed.
[12:09]  Fawn Starflare: Yes, toy?
[12:10]  Fawn Starflare: I waited for her to return. She is a very good girl most of the time, and she greeted me with a foot kiss and her pledge of submission to me.
[12:10]  Fawn Starflare: However I had not heard something I was expecting and that she would have said in other circumstance when bindings were added or removed :
[12:10]  Fawn Starflare: "thank you"
[12:11]  Fawn Starflare: So I asked, "what have you forgotten to say?"
[12:11]  Fawn Starflare: Now if she had said 'thank you' or 'I don't know', things would have ended there.

Discussion Wed Noon 5/14/2014

Chats with Miss Fawn
Wednesday, 14  May 2014, noon SLT

Augmented Reality, Totally Independent world, or something in between or other. What's your view of SL and how does it affect the way you do BDSM in SL? Conversely, what you want to do or get out of BDSM in SL probably affects your perception of SL. Regardless, we often do things in SL we couldn't do in RL due to issues of physical safety and other concerns. Though physical safety can be ignored, a bad scene or relationship can do emotional or spiritual harm in a variety of ways. How does one inoculate herself against harm before entering into a scene or relationship?

[12:09]  Fawn Starflare: The topic today was suggested by an 8 year old block entry that tessa pointed out to me.
[12:10]  Fawn Starflare: And while those issues of what should SL have long since been settles, the title suggests something that I think about all the time with connection to the BDSM lifestyle in SL.
[12:11]  Mermaid Stormcrow waits for Miss Fawn to continue.
[12:12]  Fawn Starflare: Now I want to make a disclaimer before I jump right in. The there are at least two different issues which one could spend a lot of time. There are deep philosophical considerations. However they are tangential to what I have in mind and I will cut off discussion that will lead in to philosophical pondering.
[12:12]  Fawn Starflare: I was trying to think how to word that.
[12:13]  Fawn Starflare: SL is for us a wonderful virtual world.
[12:14]  Fawn Starflare: Now this can and does mean many things. Some see SL as a world apart, cut off from the "First World".
[12:14]  Fawn Starflare: The laws of nature need not apply, nor social conventions, nor any of the things upon which our first life is built.
[12:15]  Fawn Starflare: Now this has an impact to BDSM.

Discussion Wed noon 4-30-2014 Grooming subs, definition of slave etc

4-30-2014

Fawn Starflare:
You know, that description is a lot like creating a bonsai. Pruning, staking, tying off, directing it's growth. The result is not a doormat, but a slave who evolves to be exactly what I desire, a living individual whose every desire, hope, and action is in service to me and anticipation of my needs, but still an individual with her own mind, personality, and soul.

[12:12]  Fawn Starflare: As usual I will start with some remarks and then open the topic for general discussion.
[12:14]  Mermaid Stormcrow listens
[12:14]  Fawn Starflare: The topic of today's discussion was sparked by a beautiful quote sent to me sunday evening, by our own elisandra.
[12:15]  Fawn Starflare: I shares it with toy and others and a short discussion ensued.
[12:15]  A-Toy-Dragon (dragony.darkfury) nods
[12:15]  Fawn Starflare: You can see that on the placard to my left in front of the fireplace.
[12:16]  Fawn Starflare: The text in the placard is on a notecard. Just touch the placard for a copy of the card.
[12:16]  Fawn Starflare: I will give you all a few minutes to read the the card.

[12:16]  Bonsai Analogy owned by Fawn Starflare. gave you 'Bonsai analogy of BDSM'

Tessa and Chrisa get Married!

at 12 noon SLT on the 23rd April 2014, Tessa and Chrisa got married.
Ellen, Bythe, Margaux, Faraday, Akala, Shaia and Myself were witnesses.

This is an edited transcript:

ღ Ţєşşa ღ (tessaromanov): hello angel :)
San Mauvaise: ok Tessa and Chrisa

ღ Chrisa Romanov ღ (chrisa.zifer): hello love
San Mauvaise: facing each other

San Mauvaise: 

Friends, Cellar Members, Supporters...
We have come together to witness and bless the joining together of Tessa and Chrisa in marriage.
The union of these two people is for their mutual joy and support; for the help and comfort they can give one another,
whether things are easy for them or not in their coming lives.
Therefore marriage is not to be entered into lightly, but carefully, deliberately, and seriously. 
Into this union Tessa Romanov and Chrisa Zilfer now come to be joined.
ღ Ţєşşa ღ (tessaromanov) grins from ear to ear

San Mauvaise: If any of you can know good reason why they may not lawfully be married, for ever hold your peace.

ღ Ţєşşa ღ (tessaromanov) looks around
San Mauvaise glares at the audience
ღ Chrisa Romanov ღ (chrisa.zifer) grins
San Mauvaise: then relaxes and smiles

San Mauvaise: ok now the vows
San Mauvaise: Tessa?
Margaux Fall (margaux6) holds Bythes hand in hers
ღ Ţєşşa ღ (tessaromanov): yes Miss

will you have Chrisa to be your wife; 
to live together in the covenant of marriage?
Will you love her, comfort her, honor and keep her, in sickness and in health;
and be faithful to her in Second Life as long as you both shall live?

ღ Ţєşşa ღ (tessaromanov): i will

San Mauvaise: Chrisa?
will you have Tessa to be your wife; 
to live together in the covenant of marriage?
Will you love her, comfort her, honor and keep her, in sickness and in health;
and be faithful to her in Second Life as long as you both shall live?

ღ Chrisa Romanov ღ (chrisa.zifer): absolutely positively Miss San

San Mauvaise: All of you watching...
San Mauvaise: will you do all in your power to help and support these two persons in their marriage?

Bythe Fall: I will
Ellen Cordeaux: Absolutely. ㋡
San Mauvaise looks at the audience
Margaux Fall (margaux6): I will too
shaia Impfondo: as will I

San Mauvaise: OK Tessa, do you have a personal declaration to make?
Akala Tanara (slyan.alena): I will do as well as I can.
ღ Ţєşşa ღ (tessaromanov): yes Miss
San Mauvaise: do it now
ღ Chrisa Romanov ღ (chrisa.zifer) smiles...thank you friends

chrisa, i will be your wife
to care and comfort you and love you to the best i am able
you are my beloved
i never thought i would meet someone like you
you are a grace to me, a gift, my sweet precious angel
i will happily share my life with you, if you will have me :)
San Mauvaise: Chrisa? do you have a personal declaration?
ღ Chrisa Romanov ღ (chrisa.zifer): big breath... yes Miss
San Mauvaise: ok make it now
ღ Chrisa Romanov ღ (chrisa.zifer): 

I, chrisa, take you,ღ Ţєşşa ღ 
To be my partner in marriage and in life
To love you and honor you
To serve you
To stand by you and protect you
I promise to always listen to you
To encourage and support you
To be loyal and faithful to you
I promise to believe in you
Even when you doubt yourself
To be the reflection 
Of your best self
Because you are my very best thing
I promise to be your loving wife
From this moment through all of my Second Life

San Mauvaise: Dear friends here....
Let noone here do anything that would part these two,
but rather surround them with your love, help and support!

San Mauvaise shouts: I declare Tessa and Chrisa wed!

Margaux Fall (margaux6) cheers and claps her hands

San Mauvaise whispers: You may now kiss the bride.

ღ Chrisa Romanov ღ (chrisa.zifer): hooray!!! woot woot
Ellen Cordeaux:               *•.¸'*•.¸ ♥ ¸.•*´¸.•*
Ellen Cordeaux:   •*♥`•*** APPLAUSE ***•`♥*•
Ellen Cordeaux:               ¸.•*¸.•*´ ♥ `*•.¸`*•.¸

San Mauvaise applaudes happily
Margaux Fall (margaux6): Wooooot
ღ Chrisa Romanov ღ (chrisa.zifer): bout time...rolls my eyes
Faraday ĂгgÓus  (faraday.claremont) cheers and claps, hoots and hollars, if you look closely you would see her eyes watering.

Discussion 4-9-2014 Miss Fawn

Discussion on the responsibilities inherent in being a Mistress. Guides for Domme, switch, and sub. Lead by Miss Fawn.

“… the values we adopt will be the ones the next generation will live by. I do not know if anyone can decide for you. But no one can relieve you of the responsibility for what you say, in whatever form. And the better you are at it, the more beautiful or powerful your voice, the greater burden upon you to use it with wisdom and a great deal of care.”

“The greatest power sometimes comes in not doing a thing. It is so easy to use a skill simply because you have it, and not look two … three steps ahead to what it will cause. People listen to you, Miss ---. You can move our emotions and make us reconsider all kinds of beliefs. That is very clever. It is not always wise ….”

Caroline in
Half Moon Street
a novel by
Anne Perry
© 2000 by Anne Perry

“To whom much is given, much is required.”

Discussion 3/26/2014 Pony Miss Melody

[18:00]  Melody (j3nny.fanshaw): fawn yesterday mentioned a lot of things that today i would like to into more detail about
[18:00]  Fey nickers.
[18:01]  Tinkerbell (fey.savira) slips a sneaky little nose crinkle in comfermation
[18:01]  Melody (j3nny.fanshaw): hailey here is a mute pony not able to utter a single word it's a powerful way to control them
[18:02]  Pony lhawk22 stomps once!
[18:02]  Melody (j3nny.fanshaw): she is bound exposed and needs to draw attention to that fact even more by communicating only with its body
[18:03]  Hailey (lhawk22) nibbles and wraps her tongue around her pony bit
[18:03]  Melody (j3nny.fanshaw): not a thing for all ponies to do but it is one method for helping them find their place in this role

Demonstration 23/3/2014 Pony - Miss Fawn

[13:04]  Fawn Starflare: Ok, Wanda wants to do a bit of pony play. so let me end this part with one last thought.
[13:04]  Kayla (gemini48.royce) shivers at the words "pony play"
[13:04]  Wanda Goodnight: :blushes and thought it might be useful to show some people here what Pony Play is like
[13:14]  Wanda Goodnight gets carefully up on her feet, not having her arms to balance and wearing new pony boots.
[13:15]  Fawn Starflare: Wanda, please come forward.
[13:15]  Wanda Goodnight takes a few cautious steps into the middle of the room, then turns to look at Miss Fawn for guidance.
[13:15]  Fawn Starflare: You look lovely.
[13:15]  ღ Ţєşşa ღ (tessaromanov): nice saddle
[13:16]  Wanda Goodnight blushes a little at the attention, smiling shyly arround the bit at the compliments.
[13:16]  Fawn Starflare: One of the infinite ways to dress a pony.